Apparently there is no guidance, rules, or regulations for the firefighters to follow in the LMRFD. No wonder they do what they want.
On August 27th I told you I had requested the LMRFD Standard Operating Procedures, or SOP. The SOP is something every agency must have.
The SOP tells firefighters how they should do everything from how to wear their dress uniform, to how they are to drive vehicles, and the chain of command.
This is the reply from the LMRFD
"Like I said, I do not have a copy of NACFD's SOP's. The SOP's for the LMRFD from 2.5 years ago, which may or may not be relevant at this point, are 124 pages total. I have not found a way to quickly download and send them directly from our reporting service. I will need to print, scan and email them. I am hesitant to do that, not knowing if they even apply any longer."
Ellen
Since it's still the LMRFD, and NOT the NACFD yet, the SOP from 2 1/2 years ago is still valid. The firefighters still work for us, and we have a right to a current copy, an old copy, or any copy of the SOP for the LMRFD.
I'm tired of being told we can't have public records. If they don't want to tell us what's going on now, if NACFD takes over, Dolan and Meadview will get even less information.
Like the others at the last fire board meeting, I've let calls for the chief, and never received a call back.
This is more mismanagement, I don't know of any agency that doesn't give employees copy of their SOP on the first day of work. By not giving firefighters an SOP they have no guidance on how they are to operate vehicles, wear uniforms, or keep equipment clean.
Worse yet, with no rules, you can't get in trouble for doing something if you didn't know it was wrong.
We need to know if the firefighters were ever given an SOP, we need a copy of the SOP so we know the rules too.
UPDATE. Who's Hiding What
The LMRFD apparently doesn't want us to know what firefighters are supposed to do. Rather than let me review the SOP they want $248 for a copy of what every firefighter should have.
It's OUR fire district, withholding public information isn't right.
We should be able to review documents without it costing $248...
What are they hiding?
So now you are deleting my replies? Like I said, the cost as posted on the bulletin board at the station since forever, is $2/page for reports. If you want to pay that rate for 124 or so pages you are free to exercise that right.
ReplyDeleteWhen can I come by the fire station and look at a LMRFD SOP?
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Delete$2 per page? Why?
ReplyDelete"... I have not found a way to quickly download and send them directly from our reporting service. I will need to print, scan and email them. ..."
You don't know how to print to .pdf?
If you need to print 60 pages per year like you said you had to do to find the 37 fires, or print then scan the same information into the same computer to print it like the SOP, then we need someone who knows how to run a computer.
ReplyDeleteAny high-school kid knows how to get the information, and you don't need a security clearance to run the web page.
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